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posted by: newbie (reply) post date: 01.28.05 (7:55 am) wow hawaii. As if she isn't spoiled enough already. posted by: Aaron (reply) post date: 01.28.05 (9:00 am) hey, be nice. Erin paid for most of her college on her own and hardly gets any financial support from her parents. the trip was a graduation present from her parents and after the hard work she put in to make it though school, I think she deserves it. and please -- don't post anonymously. especially when you write something mean, it makes you look afraid to stand behind your words. posted by: trickangle (reply) post date: 01.28.05 (9:49 am) Reply to: Aaron Whatever, aaron! I never post anonymously anymore (that first post was not me, btw) and yet you don't respond to my challenges to you. Big deal. And seriously--God blesses you with a place to stay, and next thing you do is demand a swimming pool! Wow! That does sound spoiled to me (and I honestly never would have thought that of erin before). I've never had the privilege of a swimming pool, and would be thankful just for finding a place to stay, especially when it was not for sure she would find even that. And if this Hawaii trip has been in the works for so long, why the heck didn't us her friends ever hear about it? I just randomly hear one day from a random friend that "oh, erin went to Hawaii!" Well, if that's what floats her boat, then more power to her, I guess. I just hope if my parents get me anything for my graduation it will be something more practical and a wise use of money. posted by: Aaron (reply) post date: 01.28.05 (10:53 am) Reply to: trickangle I'm not exactly sure what you mean by your challenges to me . . . I've tried to respond to every one that I'm aware of. If I've missed something that you'd like me to comment on, please let me know. The whole swimming pool thing was a joke, not to be taken very seriously. No one was "demanding" a swimming pool and we both feel very blessed with the places we have to stay. Perhaps my own tendency to write sort of tounge-and-cheek stopped that from coming out. Also, the Hawaii trip wasn't "in the works" for very long at all and was a bit of a surprise from Erin's parents. I'm pretty sure that Erin didn't go around talking about it because she didn't want to be thought of as bragging or spoiled. She was a bit emberassed by the whole thing and regardless of whether or not you think it was a "good use of money," it was a GIFT, and one for her mom and grandmother as well. What I don't understand is why Erin's taking so much heat from people I assume to be her friends. Is it that hard to be supportive or have a little goodwill? posted by: hopie26 (reply) post date: 01.28.05 (12:07 pm) I was the one who wrote that first comment. I apologize to Erin. I guess a trip seems weird in my eyes, but if it is important to your family, I understand completely. Family is very, very vital and making great memories with them is imortant. To Aaron, I guess the blog entry made me frustrated. I am not used to your "tone" in Erin's blogs. Usually she has quite a different overall tone to her posts. That is not an excuse, just a reason. As for keeping Hawaii a secret, I think she kind of insulted her friends' intelligence. Anyone who is a good friend would of course be happy for her, but finding out secondhand makes it seem like she made a bad decision. By hiding it, she seems embarrassed and ultimately points to her thinking it was a poor decision to go. But Erin's business is just that. Her business. I guess who she tells what is her business, not mine. posted by: trickangle (reply) post date: 01.28.05 (12:32 pm) Reply to: hopie26 I agree with Hope. Erin ought to have not hidden her trip. I found out from Amber, and she made it sound like it had been in the works for quite awhile. But it's possible I misunderstood her. You never responded to my comment in Erin's post "goo." I still think your argument in that post was absurd, plus it kinda pissed me off that you were ripping on what I said as if you were defending Erin when Erin and I didn't even disagree on anything. Either speak for yourself or let Erin speak for herself, ok? You dig? I also was offended by the tone of this latest blog entry. I did not take it to be "tongue-in-cheek." Even understanding that now, it still seems cocky to be even joking about things like that when God just totally came through for you in the clutch. I mean, Erin could be on the street right now (err...when she gets back, that is) and here you are joking about how you ought to have a swimming pool. Seems a little ungrateful. And erin paid for most of her college--so what? So does Hope. So do lots of people. What's so special about that that makes her more deserving of anything? It's like you're implying that because she was frugal in college it's ok to waste money now that's she's out. It's fine that it was a gift. What gets me isn't that so much. What gets me is when I talked to her before she left with you for California, she was talking like she was in this absolutely desperate place--no place to stay once she got down there, no job lined up, etc. So to find out all of a sudden she's in Hawaii for a week is a little weird! My parents couldn't afford that. But you know what, that doesn't matter. That's not my point. My point is that it is weird be told someone doesn't have any money or a place to stay and then find out they just randomly went to Hawaii. "What I don't understand is why Erin's taking so much heat from people I assume to be her friends. Is it that hard to be supportive or have a little goodwill?" I have goodwill for my friends, but I also try to be honest with them about my frustrations and also challenge them. Letting misunderstandings slide under the rug is the wrong way to foster a healthy friendship. I guess YOUR friends just tell you what you want to hear all the time, huh? Seems to me that if all your friends do is praise you, the tendency is to get a little full of yourself. But that's just my opinion. posted by: trickangle (reply) post date: 01.28.05 (12:33 pm) That last comment was meant for Aaron, not you, Hope. Sorry for the confusion. posted by: BroKenDreaMs (reply) post date: 01.28.05 (4:41 pm) Vote for Me! Not a Tree! Votes wanted above the typing above Tblurt at Feature Your Blog! Thanks! =) posted by: Aaron (reply) post date: 01.28.05 (5:16 pm) Reply to: trickangle Ok, lots going on here. I reread my post and I think I can understand where you guys are coming from. It does seem pretty irreverent and disrespectful, which I take responsibility for. I also take responsibility for writing some as "spme." If I'd read through the post before posting I probably would have changed some things. As I note in the post, it was sort of late at night and I wasn't really thinking clearly. I can see how it's offensive and I appologize. Secondly, I think you may have overestimated how important this trip was to Erin -- the whole time she was with me she never really made a big deal about the trip. I can see that you're upset that she didn't say anything before hand, and I understand why you would be, but after reading your reactions to this post, I don't really blame Erin for not saying anything. And of course my friends don't always tell me what to hear, and I certianly wouldn't want them to. Galations 6:1-5 is one of my favorite passages on how Christians should keep each other accountable, and I think that's very important. If you guys still have things you want to discuss, I suggest we do it through e-mail (hawaiianhaze@yahoo.com). posted by: trickangle (reply) post date: 01.28.05 (9:38 pm) Reply to: Aaron Well said for the most part. Humility is a vital quality, and you exhibit it well at times. Apology accepted. I apologize for getting emotionally charged about this and thus overstating my frustrations. I shouldn't (for one thing) said what I did about your choice of friends. That was out of line, and I'm sorry. Other than that, I think I pretty much stick to everything I said. I guess everything was exascerbated by the fact that you wrote the post in a tone completely foreign to Erin's, and thus, foreign to many readers of this blog. "I can see that you're upset that she didn't say anything before hand, and I understand why you would be, but after reading your reactions to this post, I don't really blame Erin for not saying anything." That's a fair opinion, I guess (and I'll admit the first comment was not the most mature way to respond, and I guess maybe it influenced me too (though I was already annoyed by the post before I even opened the comments (and I should note that I still stand by what I said, I'm not trying to pass blkame for anything))). However, it remains the truth that had Erin simply handled how she communicated things better, we would not have responded the same way. I guess one last thing that I forgot to say anywhere else is that I also think it added to the frustrations that you, Aaron, were the one to first say anything about this to us on this blog, not Erin herself. That just adds to the thought (justified or not) of, "why didn't she ever say anything? was she ashamed?" That said, she probably wasn't; all i'm saying is it looks that way. posted by: trickangle (reply) post date: 01.28.05 (10:08 pm) Reply to: Aaron Please check out the meat discussion. I've replied to your comment. :) posted by: trickangle (reply) post date: 01.29.05 (2:12 am) Reply to: Aaron I've replied to your latest comment on meat. Check it out. (I have a feeling this could go on for awhile . . .) [Anyone wondering what I'm talking about, check out the comments under the post "goo" (12-27-04).] posted by: SnowBird (reply) post date: 01.29.05 (6:29 am) I honestly didn't think that the trip was a big deal at all, and I think it was a nice gift to be given, after putting so many years of work into a dipolma, a nice get away seems perfect! And honestly I would not have mentioned her trip, had I known that it would have upest people. As for it being planned for a long time, Aaron was very correct, it was sprung on her, I believe shorly before she and Aaron began their trip (correct me if I am wrong Aaron). And lastly, I would like to thank Aaron, for updating us on Erins latest happenings (ie in Hawaii)! posted by: trickangle (reply) post date: 01.29.05 (10:37 am) Reply to: SnowBird I wouldn't have thought it was a big deal ether if Erin hadn't communicated certain things to me in a certain way. Saying that, perhaps it would have been better to have addressed that issue in a more private manner. Honestly, the trip didn't upset me that much. The part that offended me most was the stuff about a swimming pool. |
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